Form 8815 Institutions 2022-2023

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Music welcome to a conversation with history I'm Harry Kreisler of the Institute of International Studies our guest today is George Packer who is a staff writer for The New Yorker the author of many books most recently the unwinding which won the National Book Award for nonfiction he is on the Berkeley campus as the 2023 Jefferson lecturer George welcome back to our program good to be with you again Harry last time you were here we talked about the unwinding and when I asked you what you learned from doing that research and writing that book about where America was that book has been cited as a primer on trumps America Trump's victory I think I have to reject that a little I didn't imagine Donald Trump's presidency I believed the polls last year I thought he would win because the poll I mean I thought Hillary would win because the polls said she would but the book did survey a landscape that was preparing the way for Trump so trumpism the feelings the impulses that we call populism that fueled the support that drove him you know to victory in the Republican primary the victory in the general election was all there in the places I was reporting on five six seven years earlier so I wasn't I was I guess shocked but not surprised by his victory because that work had prepared me for something like that I just didn't think we were quite that far gone and what were the some of the things that you found I mean you were going to different parts of the country talking to different people of different social class and there were some common themes I mean as people responded to the 2023 crash yeah that was the...